orichalcum: (Obama)
orichalcum ([personal profile] orichalcum) wrote2008-06-07 09:29 pm

Dysfunctional much?

From a NYTimesarticle
about the internal dynamics of the Clinton campaign:

"On election night, Mr. Clinton grew playfully competitive with his wife over who had done more events or had had more impact, Mr. Rendell said. Mrs. Clinton was superstitious and rarely watched election night coverage, but in the hotel suite, Mr. Rendell showed her husband county-by-county returns.

“The president wanted to know exactly what the returns were in the places he had been and Hillary hadn’t been,” Mr. Rendell said. “He kept showing Hillary, and she would laugh.”"

The awful thing is - I know couples like that. And I don't think of them has having healthy relationship, no matter how "playfully" it's phrased. You'd think he'd be proud of the amazing accomplishments of his spouse (who gave a terrific speech today, btw, which did much to soothe a lot of my irritation towards her).

In other news, this weekend the Obamas hosted 11 7-year-old girls for a pizza-and-sleepover birthday party at their house for their daughter Sasha, who has had her dad at home for all of 10 days in the last year but got him to make pizza for her birthday.

[identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh* That makes me sad... but not surprised. Which is too bad. What an example for a daughter, too.

Sasha Obama, on the other hand, wins!

[identity profile] meepodeekin.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say I'm surprised by reports of Bill not really respecting his wife. After all, most of the functional marriages I know do not involve the husband shtupping his intern. Still, I can wish he would treat her better, especially during such a long, stressful haul.

On another topic, poor Sasha! It's gotta be hard to see your Dad that little. And her Mom's been pretty busy too. She's very little to understand everything that's going on.

[identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...what really made me sad regarding Sasha was this quote:

"His ache for time lost with his daughters feels palpable. On his plane recently, he described the nightly calls home. Malia, 9, is loquacious, rattling off every detail of her day. Six-year-old Sasha, whom he has nicknamed Cool Breeze, goes monosyllabic.

How was your day? “Fiiiine,” Mr. Obama mimics her uninterested voice.

Because, well, when you haven't really seen your Dad much for a year and you're six, of course you're going to distance yourself... And the adult Obamas made that choice knowingly, and knowing what it would do to their family, but still. Got to be hard for a six-year-old.

[identity profile] jendaviswilson.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
I remember reading an article that was about the Clinton's relationship. It was saying that although they try to sell themselves as an average baby-boomer marriage, in fact they have quite a unique (some might even say alternative or progressive) relationship, what with the politics and the ambitions and the independence and philandering and all. But if it works for them, hey, who are we to judge? I certainly wouldn't marry that guy, but I'm not a Hillary either. I can't imagine what their home life is like, given who both of them are, so I'm not even going to try.

Sasha

[identity profile] jendaviswilson.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, when you're six, "Your dad is busy, because he's the most important man in the whole country!" seems like, duh, of course he's the most important man. It still doesn't explain why he isn't building me a treehouse right now, since I'm obviously the most important kid.

Hopefully she'll have 8 years to come to terms with it.

Re: Sasha

[identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but a treehouse in the White House gardens would be _awesome._

[identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough - it was just the implication of constant competitiveness and self-centeredness that he seems to have - even in a race that _isn't_ about him.

[identity profile] meepodeekin.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I had a very distant dad when I was six (until high school or so), and it makes a permanent dent in your ability to have a real relationship with him, even if he tries to fix it later.

I completely get that Obama has made a careful and thoughtful choice and I am sure he is trying his best with his kids. But the history of how First Children turn out is not reassuring, and for them to be dealing with it so young seems particularly cruel.

[identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Chelsea seems to have managed fairly well, as does Amy Carter and Caroline Kennedy, the Ford kids, and, for that matter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower and David Eisenhower, two First Kids who married each other (and are apparently now big Obama supporters; one can only imagine what their dads would have thought.)

But yeah...it's got to be really hard on them nonetheless - and campaign seasons have gotten so much longer and more grueling than they used to be.

[identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com 2008-06-08 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's a picture of Barack and Sasha which just makes you go, "oh, poor sweetie...": http://bp2.blogger.com/_HJO5gb7hdlU/SEqdytzI-5I/AAAAAAAAAMA/4kRVX58nqGI/s1600-h/34137231.jpg