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posted by [personal profile] orichalcum at 04:22pm on 25/06/2008 under
(Amusingly, apparently Sorkin originally paraphrased much of this from an anonymous e-mail forward.)

Compare "And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's, or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount - a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let's read our bibles. Folks haven't been reading their bibles.

This brings me to my second point. Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."

and this clip from Season 2, Episode 3 of the West Wing.

I really want Obama to hire Toby. :)
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posted by [identity profile] emilymorgan.livejournal.com at 09:58pm on 25/06/2008
I LOVE that scene (even if it did somewhat sound like one of those email forwards, yeah.) Do you know the source of the Obama quote, by any chance?
 
posted by [identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com at 11:17pm on 25/06/2008
Oh, Sorry, it was a 2006 speech to the Christian Democratic Network, I think?
 
posted by [identity profile] stolen-tea.livejournal.com at 05:02am on 26/06/2008
 
posted by [identity profile] greenelephant.livejournal.com at 10:37pm on 25/06/2008
So much of this campaign seems to allude to TWW, esp. the last season. I don't know if I'm projecting, having only recently watched the whole season just as the Democratic primaries were getting underway, but the whole "young,relatively inexperienced minority candidate vs. the senior (in more than one sense) Republican candidate" seems, as it were, "ripped from the headlines". Or should that be ripped from the scripts? :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] emilymorgan.livejournal.com at 02:57am on 26/06/2008
Yes! But it's (mostly) the other way around. Obama's campaign manager was a consultant for West Wing. Here's a neat article about it in the Washington Post. :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com at 02:11am on 26/06/2008
That scene has always been a favorite of mine.

Obama for America!
 
posted by [identity profile] digitalemur.livejournal.com at 02:12am on 26/06/2008
So is Obama dog-whistling to West Wing viewers when he does this stuff? His staff just _must_ know this material by now....
 
posted by [identity profile] orichalcum.livejournal.com at 02:55am on 26/06/2008
Well, this was 2006, so maybe, but who knows?

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